Human-First AI Marketing Podcast by Avenue9
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For founders and marketing leaders at expert-led B2B firms, Mike Montague, founder of Avenue9, hosts weekly conversations with AI and marketing experts and other founders to learn how they use AI in marketing.
You'll hear practical ways to build thought leadership, leverage AI systems, tell scalable sales stories that travel, show up in AI answers with Answer Engine Optimization (AEO), and build workflows that amplify your team. Practical, candid, and a little funny.
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Human-First AI Marketing Podcast by Avenue9
The AI Workforce Shift: Building a High-Leverage Team with Ashley Gross
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In this episode of the Human First AI Marketing podcast, host Mike Monague sits down with Ashley Gross, founder of the AI Workforce Alliance, to unpack one of the most urgent transformations facing today’s marketing leaders: the shift from traditional labor models to outcome-based, AI-enabled work. Ashley shares how she reduced her workweek from 40 to 15 hours without sacrificing quality and why this isn’t just a personal productivity hack, but a framework for scaling teams, optimizing budgets, and retaining talent in a fast-changing business landscape.
From the rise of autonomous agents to the future of entry-level roles, this conversation explores how AI is reshaping everything from content creation and project management to strategy and culture. Whether you're a marketing director figuring out how to upskill your team or a small business owner deciding where to invest your time and resources, this episode delivers practical insights on human-AI collaboration, designing outcome-based compensation models, and preparing your workforce for the next evolution of work.
Top Takeaways
1. Optimize for outcomes, not hours.
Ashley advocates moving away from hourly compensation toward value-based models where employees are rewarded for results, not time spent.
2. AI enables a 15-hour workweek without sacrificing quality
By leveraging AI tools strategically, professionals can dramatically reduce time spent on repetitive tasks and focus on higher-impact work.
3. Every role is a sales role now, and emotional intelligence still matters
Whether in HR, product, or marketing, employees are “selling” ideas and experiences, and human connection remains essential in the age of AI.
4. Start by automating low-empathy, repetitive tasks
Use AI to eliminate busywork, like note-taking or task entry, so your team can concentrate on the work that truly requires human judgment.
5. The myth of job safety is outdated. Create your own role
Traditional job paths are disappearing, and Ashley encourages employees to proactively shape new AI-enhanced roles based on curiosity and initiative.
6. AI can fast-track your learning and creativity.
For early-career professionals, using AI to experiment, learn, and iterate quickly can leapfrog the traditional slow climb up the career ladder.
7. Don’t wait for the perfect tool, start with what’s already available
Many people are paralyzed by the hype; Ashley recommends embracing imperfect tools now to build comfort and skill before the next wave hits.
8. Too many AI tools are just wrappers master the foundational ones
Focus on deeply learning platforms like ChatGPT or Claude rather than chasing every shiny new app built on top of them.
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